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Welcome back everyone this will be my spider-man  no way home video for the venom alternate ending  

in deleted scenes with the venom character  the writers of the movie reveal that they  

originally had a lot of different plans for  the venom character so we'll break it all down  

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no way home if you have not seen the movie yet  because we need to talk about the ending and  

what happens with the venom character but the  writers of the movie reveal that they did in  

fact start with an alternate plan for venom in  the film in the theatrical cut he just appears  

as a post-credits scene like a really quick tag  scene or mid-credit scene technically to pay off  

the venom look thereby carnage post-credit scene  that we already saw of him being teleported into  

the mcu universe and then seeing spider-man and  hyping up a big fight between the two of them

they just have a funny scene of him getting drunk  at the bar after the events of the venomoloth  

carnage post-credit scene with the football  as life character from ted lasso if you felt  

like this actor was familiar but you couldn't  remember where you saw him it was from ted lasso  

venom and eddie brock basically recapped the  events of the marvel movies the infinity saga  

movies talking about iron man the hulk infinity  stones the infinity gauntlet the bartender yells  

at him for joking about the snap and the five  year time jump because he lost his family and then  

eddie brock says well maybe we should go to new  york city and talk to this spider-man character  

before he and the venom symbiote get teleported  back to his universe by dr strange's second spell  

at the end of the film but they do leave behind a  piece of the symbiote so that marvel and sony can  

do their own version of a symbiote saga in the new  tom hall and spider-man trilogy in the mcu if you  

weren't sure what's happening between marvel and  sony he is staying in the mcu issues of sharing  

the character with sony so versions of spider-man  including tom hall and spider-man will sometimes  

eventually show up in sony driven films although  i wouldn't be surprised if this little piece of  

symbiote bonds with the bartender first and then  slowly jumps from host to host until it makes its  

way into tom hall and spider-man but according  to the writers venom's storyline in the movie  

was originally supposed to be way bigger if you  felt like the movie wasn't already big enough like  

there was already a lot of crazy stuff happening  in the third act with toby mcguire spider-man and  

andrew garfield spider-man entering the movie but  according to the writers venom was legit supposed  

to be on screen fighting in that huge final  battle at the statue of liberty with tom holland  

spider-man toby maguire andrew garfield spider-man  in the sinister six characters the writers didn't  

reveal exactly how those scenes were going to play  out during the final battle like during the statue  

of liberty fight they tried to give special  moments to all three different versions of  

spider-man each of them get a lot of good scenes  a lot of good moments so it was already a lot for  

them to juggle like it would have been hard to  work venom in but apparently there was a version  

they started the movie with venom in this big  final fight also having his own moments and scenes  

but since they ended the venom let the b carnage  post credit scene with him saying that guy like he  

thought that spider-man was a bad guy they  needed to stop and eddie in the theatrical  

post-credit scene said maybe i should go to new  york and talk to the spider-man guy i think it's  

safe to say venom would have started the movie  the same way that dr octopus did very similar  

arc like he starts out in the movie fighting  spider-man thinking that he's a villain in tom  

holland spider-man thinks that venom is another  multiverse film that he needs to help like why are  

you trying to kill me i'm trying to save you hi do  i know you and quickly before the big final battle  

venom would realize that spider-man is a good guy  and then try to help him toby maguire and andrew  

garfield during the final fight and it would have  just been an even bigger even crazier version  

of the fight that we saw in the theatrical cut  the writers also confirmed my theory about how  

tom hardy's venom recognized tom hall and  spider-man it's because of the hive memories  

across the multiverse the writers basically said  what i've been saying since my venom look there  

be carnage post credit scene video so i'll  link that video below in the description as  

well along with the other videos but the idea  is that the symbiotes all have this multiverse  

hive mind linking them across the multiverse in  genetic memory that allows each symbiote to access  

the memories of all the other symbiotes in every  universe going back to the creation of their rays  

80 billion light years of hive knowledge across  universes would explode your tiny little brain so  

the spider-man no way home writers confirmed that  in the venom let the b carnage post credit scene  

when venom says that guy what the marvel and sony  people meant is that he's seeing spider-man in the  

costume and the symbol and making the connection  to toby maguire spider-man from spider-man 3  

by accessing the memories of the topher grace  venom symbiote but it's not perfect recall so  

he just sort of mixing and matching things in his  head like things are all bleeding together so he  

remembers a version of spider-man that looks kind  of like this but not exactly like this so he says  

oh that guy he looks kind of like that guy  thinking of toby maguire spider-man so it's  

not a topher grace venom cameo scene or anything  like that for people that wondered why he wasn't  

referenced anywhere in the movie but it's about as  close as you could get to referencing his version  

of the character and yes they did tease alternate  spider-man no way home post-credit scenes  

featuring toby mcguire and andrew garfield's  versions of spider-man like they discussed  

having legit post-credit scenes for both of their  characters in the theatrical cut doctor strange's  

second spell just sends them home when all the  other sinister six characters get sent home and  

that's the last time you see them but the writers  said when they were developing toby and andrew's  

story lines there were a lot of conversations  about teasing the future of their characters in  

the larger multiverse like what was going to be  happening to them next after the events of this  

film and as a lot of you have suspected the marvel  and sony people had talked about the possibility  

of bringing them back for more cameos in future  movies you probably saw a lot of this in your  

timeline the past couple of weeks since the movie  came out like marvel and sony want tobey mcguire  

and andrew garfield back for more movies they said  that one of toby mcguire's big things when he was  

signing on to the film was that he didn't want  the writers to completely script out everything  

that happened to his spider-man after the end  of spider-man 3 like he wanted as light a touch  

as possible like very loose references at best  that's why in the movie you only briefly hear  

him mention having a family with his version of mj  and present-day and kind of alluding to what might  

have happened to his character like he gave andrew  garfield spider-man a pep talk saying it's totally  

possible for you to have a family like when he  was giving andrew garfield spider-man that pep  

talk saying it's totally possible for him to have  a family and be spider-man because andrew garfield  

spider-man just had not moved on from his versions  of gwen stacy like he hadn't fallen in love with  

anyone else after that but andrew garfield on the  other side of that when he was signing on to the  

movie the writer said that he loved all the ideas  that they pitched to him about what happened to  

his character after the end of amazing spider-man  2. about how he went super dark after gwen stacy's  

death turned rage full bitter stop pulling his  punches for those of you who have been seeing all  

the amazing spider-man 3 posts in your timeline  so that's why they wrote so much more story about  

what happened to him after amazing spider-man 2  than they did for say like tobey maguire after  

the end of spider-man 3 because toby specifically  asked them not to do that and andrew garfield was  

like oh hell yes please do that i think a lot  of that was because andrew garfield did not  

get that third spider-man film and toby maguire  did like there was so much more story to tell  

for andrew garfield spider-man than there was  for tobey maguire's so bringing it back around  

to amazing spider-man 3 they basically implied in  the film through andrew's story that he either had  

or was getting ready to have a version of his own  symbiote saga like his version of a tobey maguire  

venom storyline in spider-man 3. because the whole  idea in spider-man 3 is that he goes super dark  

rageful and bitter and that's when he gets the  symbiote and it just makes him that much worse  

you'll get your rent when you fix this damn  door there've also recently been rumors that  

venom three will be a multiverse movie with tom  hardy's venom encountering a version of spider-man  

and that could always wind up being andrew  garfield spider-man that's just a rumor though i  

think andrew garfield for sure will show up again  in another multiverse or spider-verse spider-man  

movie toby maguire 2 eventually but probably not  as much as andrew garfield andrew garfield stole  

every scene he was in during spider-man no way  home like they legit redeemed his character  

and his amazing spider-man movies a lot electro  probably got the biggest glow up metaphorically  

and literally of any of the sinister six villains  in bringing this back around to the spider-verse  

movies i've mentioned this before but the animated  spider-man across the spider-verse producers  

have also implied that tom holland will cross  over in one of the spider-verse sequel movies  

the next one across the spider-verse is actually a  two-parter so at least by part two and originally  

in the very first spider-man into the spider-verse  movie they had wanted to do toby mcguire and  

andrew garfield cameos but at the time like  around 2017-2018 when they would have actually  

been recording their cameos sony apparently  said that it was too soon to bring them back  

now remember this is a couple years ago but  clearly now in present day is the right time  

since spider-man no way home is basically a  live-action spider-verse movie and with the big  

miles morales easter egg during spider-man no way  home just talking about miles morales in the mcu  

there are a number of different ways they can  introduce him but the boss level spider-man move  

they should go for is just having the animated  miles morales travel into the live-action mcu  

earth at the very end of the spider-man across the  spider-verse part 2 movie like they end that movie  

with a post-credit scene of him traveling from  an animated universe into the live-action mcu  

if you're an old-school simpsons fan they  actually did this twist during a treehouse  

of horror episode homer simpson gets teleported  from an animated universe into the real world  

and you see his avatar walking around a regular  street all freaked out like what is happening  

they also did a version of this on gravity falls  with the animated actor so like it flashes from  

the animated characters to their voice over actors  you also notice linda cardellini is here she plays  

hawkeye's wife in the mcu she was a character on  gravity falls so that's why she's sitting here  

when they flash to the live-action version of  the characters but they should just do a miles  

morales version of this looking kind of like the  gravity falls version where the animated character  

just jumps into live action and is played by  a live action actor and even though all this  

venom stuff is really cool there's still a bunch  of other deleted scenes that i need to do a video  

about they've revealed a whole bunch of things  that they just cut out of the film so i might  

do that video in the next couple of days as well  congratulations superman theaterizer 42 you're the  

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